I was just listening to a clip from Ina May Gaskin, and in tha,t she said that she doesn't tell women to push through the ring of fire. I thought this was interesting because I often hear people tell women that, and I've told women that. But what Ms. Gaskin was saying is that this is the signal to stop and let your body stretch. It's all theory, but it kind of made sense to me. So I'm just passing it on to all you guys. When that ring of fire comes, go ahead and stop pushing. It won't hurt you and it won't hurt the babyand it may decrease the discomfort, . Mind as well try.